FACT CHECKERS DO NOT POSSESS SUPERIOR INFORMATION OR FAULTLESS FACTS NOR ARE THEY IN POSSESSION OF THE ABSOLUTE TRUTHS

Topic: Debate between former Pfizer VP and Senior Scientist Michael (Mike) Yeadon versus Facebook Fact checkers and Pfizer

Main point: “... that itself was evidence what going on...New World Order run by technocrats and medical tyranny... a new communist form of system...”

52 Comments:

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Chris S, 6 May 2021 at 11:18 AM:

We know the credentials of Dr. Michael Yeadon, among other things, Vice President and Chief Scientific Officer and Respiratory Expert at Pfizer for 16 years. So what are the credentials of the fact checkers? Who are they? Who pays them?

Guest # 16193246235, 25 Apr 2021 at 12:23 PM:

Fact Checkers do not lie, but then again so many other so-called truth advocates, they do wear the Brown Paper Bag Of Truth over their heads to validate the authenticity of their findings.

Guest # 162060608438, 10 May 2021 at 8:25 AM:

LOL. So fact checkers are omnipotent who know the truth of all? If you actually read their text it's obvious how much inflammatory wording they use. Conspiracy theory and widely discredited and all sort of nonsense. Why they do that? They wanna score some points and cause a cult following of assholes to go wage war under their flag. Otherwise if facts were all they were about they'd focus on the science. Widely discredited especially is such nonsense, when there are scientific papers showing something is clearly still disputed. They've taken a stand, and that stand is on the hard left. Their political leanings, and sponsors come almost completely from the left. It's pretty obvious what they're all about. And truth ain't it.

Guest # 161918279456, 23 Apr 2021 at 8:59 PM: What a joke. Fact checkers are liars. LIARS

Guest # 161908721423, 22 Apr 2021 at 6:26 PM:

uhhhh yea i think i'll trust Pfizer's former Vice President and Chief Scientist for Allergy and Respiratory, Dr. Michael Yeadon, over some "fact checking" undergrad interns. Hilarious!

Guest # 161827106775, 13 Apr 2021 at 7:44 AM:

Where are the damn citations all these refutation articles WITH NO CITATIONS Yeadon provides citations to all his claims that you all call baseless

Guest # 162029995770, 6 May 2021 at 7:19 PM:

Great Point!! Where are the citations of the so-called "Fact Checkers?"

Guest # 162269521876, 3 Jun 2021 at 12:40 PM:

Let’s have the fact checkers sweep around their own back doors as this whole thing blows up in their faces!

Guest # 162096291521, 14 May 2021 at 11:28 AM:

"resurgence...starting in September and October." Yeah, at the same time the vaccince program started. Same death spikes rose just after the vaccines started in India, Mongolia ect. Mongloai was virus free for 12 months, then the jabs. Go look at the time line charts!

*Mongolia

See the graph.

Guest # 162034607684, 7 May 2021 at 8:07 AM:

He was never a vice president of Pfizer. He worked as team leader of an allergy unit at Pfizer and left under a cloud in 2011.

Guest # 162060608438, 10 May 2021 at 8:21 AM:

Your dad left under a cloud. There's nothing to that assertion. You've been reading too much Snopes, that gatekeeper liar who claims to be omnipotent know it all.

Chris S, 6 May 2021 at 11:18 AM:

We know the credentials of Dr. Michael Yeadon, among other things Chief Scientific Officer and Respiratory Expert at Pfizer for 16 years. So what are the credentials of the fact checkers? Who are they? Who pays them?

Guest # 16193246235, 25 Apr 2021 at 12:23 PM:

Fact Checkers do not lie, but then again so many other so-called truth advocates, they do wear the Brown Paper Bag Of Truth over their heads to validate the authenticity of their findings.

Guest # 162060608438, 10 May 2021 at 8:25 AM:

Guest # 161918279456, 23 Apr 2021 at 8:59 PM:

What a joke. Fact checkers are liars. LIARS

Guest # 161908730091, 22 Apr 2021 at 6:28 PM:

loving this comment section by the way :D

Guest # 161772791854, 7 Apr 2021 at 12:51 AM:

How can you dispute a chief scientist's claims by using an assistant professor of a university? Weak!

Guest # 161727034647, 1 Apr 2021 at 5:45 PM:

If you want to learn the truth and what happen to the world you can go to Fact-Checkers sites. What they say that are fakes are the real TRUTH!!! Period

Bless dog, 19 Apr 2021 at 5:56 AM:

So true!

CM, 31 Mar 2021 at 12:21 PM:

Debunked by Fake Checkers. the man is correct and all who disagree with him are the fools being deceived by this Great reset crowd who are lying to the whole world..most scientist are on our side,this was all planned by Fauci who was doing gain of function in Wuhan working with Chinese scientists. All to make money from vaccines and destroy our way of lives and democracy and liberty.There are many treatments that were deliberately ignored... that itself was evidence what going on...New World Order run by technocrats and medical tyranny... a new communist form of system

Guest # 161475495789, 3 Mar 2021 at 3:02 PM:

To believe that the pharmaceutical industry wants a healthy population is the same as believing that the military industry wants peace in the world. That's my 2 cents.

CM, 31 Mar 2021 at 12:22 PM:

Debunked by Fake Checkers. the man is correct and all who disagree with him are the fools being deceived by this Great reset crowd who are lying to the whole world..most scientist are on our side,this was all planned by Fauci who was doing gain of function in Wuhan working with Chinese scientists. All to make money from vaccines and destroy our way of lives and democracy and liberty.There are many treatments that were deliberately ignored..that itself was evidence what going on..New World Order run by technocrats and medical tyranny..a new communist form of system

Bless dog, 19 Apr 2021 at 5:57 AM:

Well said!

Guest # 161466540556, 2 Mar 2021 at 2:10 PM:

Dr. Yeadon thoroughly explained his position. He has a long, credible history. So, who are these "ghost" fact-checkers? Yeah, that's what I thought. I'll stick with the credibility of Dr. Yeadon.

Guest # 161420256199, 25 Feb 2021 at 5:36 AM:

Fact Checkers said "no it isn't" so tada they are the medical experts now. BTW, to have a credible article, please fix your spelling errors.

Arnoldo gomez, 24 Feb 2021 at 5:46 AM:

PFIZER ARE CRIMINALS that have been prosecuted a number of times and should NOT even hold a drivers licence !!

CM, 31 Mar 2021 at 12:23 PM:

Arnoldo gomez, debunked by Fake Checkers. The man is correct and all who disagree with him are the fools being deceived by this Great reset crowd who are lying to the whole world..most scientist are on our side,this was all planned by Fauci who was doing gain of function in Wuhan working with Chinese scientists. All to make money from vaccines and destroy our way of lives and democracy and liberty.There are many treatments that were deliberately ignored..that itself was evidence what going on..New World Order run by technocrats and medical tyranny..a new communist form of system

Guest # 161265096397, 7 Feb 2021 at 6:36 AM:

LOL, the 1984 Orwellian thought checkers want to make sure more people get their quasi-government mandated shot.

Guest # 161169281493, 27 Jan 2021 at 4:26 AM:

There is a very strong push for the vaccine as there are powerful vested interests.....Dr Yeadon is trying to protect people from being brain washed to take lethal experimental injections and get bells palsy, inflammatory responses, 103 fever and also potentially die.....it would be better if you did some more investigative journalism instead of being an extension of corrupt agendas and human rights abuses such as the vaccine - be real and talk about how the management of the Covid-19 pandemic has been a scam.

Guest # 160900613470, 27 Dec 2020 at 2:08 AM:

Fact checker are liars nothing else... The former Pfizer vice-president knows what he's taking about that's fact and no fact checkers are needed. All what's the truth are false or fact checked coz you working for the corrupt governments.

Guest # 160762487621, 11 Dec 2020 at 2:27 AM:

Pfizer protecting the profit to be made.

Guest # 160752322392, 9 Dec 2020 at 10:13 PM:

Ummmm Do you have any knowledge of the Immune response whatsover????

I mean seriously how did you get this job...

Guest # 160728961136, 7 Dec 2020 at 5:20 AM: Mike Yeadon Unlocked (lbry.tv)

Guest # 160710102164, 5 Dec 2020 at 12:57 AM:

Head of Pfizer Research: Covid Vaccine is Female Sterilization

https://healthandmoneynews.wordpress.com/2020/12/02/head-of-pfizer-research-covid-vaccine-is-female-sterilization/

Guest # 160710102164, 18 June, 2021 at 6:35 PM: Is that so? I thought YouTube was right when they banned a video telling people that this type of vaccines can make women sterile in accordance to their depopulation agenda!

Guest # 160698975470, 3 Dec 2020 at 6:02 PM:

This must be the worst fact checking I've ever seen.

Guest # 16067595487, 1 Dec 2020 at 2:05 AM:

I have an advanced diploma in fact checking from Calamus International college of fact checking.

I have fact checked your fact checking and found it wanting!

Bless dog, 19 Apr 2021 at 5:59 AM: HAHA

Guest # 160675903615, 1 Dec 2020 at 1:57 AM:

Anonymous fact checkers have debunked claims by former Vice President and Chief Scientist of Pfizer Dr. Michael Yeadon. Well that settles it then. :)

Guest # 160664710024, 29 Nov 2020 at 6:51 PM:

I am very pleased that India have a press that allows all opinions to be published.

In Europe the press is not showing... is bad attetude.

Guest # 160663411640, 29 Nov 2020 at 3:15 PM:

If “fact checkers” don’t know what these T-cells do how can they say they aren’t going to act the Dr says? They can’t. They don’t know anything. Except for who is paying them off.

Guest # 16066090837, 29 Nov 2020 at 8:18 AM:

I have termed this article false, I am a qualified fact checker, I have fact checked that I am truly a fact checker and it checks out, I am a fact checker.

Bless dog, 19 Apr 2021 at 6:00 AM: lol

Guest # 160654803479, 28 Nov 2020 at 3:20 PM:

Sue the fact checkers! So they need to actually prove what they claim. It's happening as class action law suit in US already, also in Germany.

Guest # 160654803480, 18 June 2021, 7:00 PM: In the Philippines, it will not happen. For Christians here are well-taught to submit to authorities and keep silent even thought they are living or spread a lie! This is how the defined humility here in the Philippines: those who possess the truth must submit to those promote a lie if they are the bosses or the rich!

Guest # 160651135956, 28 Nov 2020 at 5:09 AM:

The vaccine hasn't been tested on enough if any people .

Guest # 160651081986, 28 Nov 2020 at 5:00 AM:

One day your vaccine is 90% effective and another day when your research failed provocative news.

Guest # 160690659653, 2 Dec 2020 at 6:56 PM:

Exactly! The title will be something "So what went wrong?" as if earnestly trying to get to the bottom of it all when right now it's painfully obvious that things are going to go wrong or at best just not work. 😕

Guest # 160649613336, 28 Nov 2020 at 12:55 AM: Provocative...

LET US NOT CONFINE OUR FACTS ON HUMAN AUTHORITIES WHICH ARE UNRELIABLE AND LIMITED

To: Stephen McDermott

From: Arnulfo Laniba

Steve, I had read your report which attempted to refute Dr. Yeadon's statement against vaccination. I would like to inject a few ideas to you so you will be more useful to mankind, not necessarily to Pfizer. Here are my points.

First, your highest authorities are human, namely: the WHO and the European Medicines committee.

Second, I want to bring to your attention that Europeans committed the error of taking down the true God and true Christ along with the fake Jesus, fake churches and fake Bible. Bro, the result is a lowering of mental skill: you all become atheist, communist, etc. You had blamed the true God and the true Christ for the errors and abuses of the network of fake churches led by the now infiltrated and corruptedVatican. This is not wise Steve.

Third, I want to be direct in my aim to tell you that the true Jesus of Nazareth has his own long version of the gospel, titled "The Great Gospel according to Jesus Christ thru John" which is 7,500 pages whereas the New Testament which includes the gospel by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John is only 300 pages!

Read and study the book which you can freely download from www.Scribd.com And let us talk after you realize that there is a divine authority higher than WHO or any human so-called experts.

Fourth, the true Lord Jesus Christ is speaking a lot about the danger of vaccines and the chips!

We will continue this via FB chat. You can contact me in my FB account Arnulfo Laniba. I will be waiting bro.

Love for the fellowman is at stake. And your blind loyalty to Pfizer may send you to what they call hell. I am serious when I said I want to continue the discussion with you... Godbless.

From Google group:

Source link: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.politics.usa/c/paWj8cu4160?pli=1

Title of discussion: Former Pfizer VP: ‘Your government is lying to you in a way that could lead to your death.’

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https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death

Dr. Michael Yeadon, Pfizer's former Vice President and Chief Scientist for

Allergy & Respiratory who spent 32 years in the industry leading new

medicines research and retired from the pharmaceutical giant with “the most

senior research position” in his field, spoke with LifeSiteNews.

He addressed the “demonstrably false” propaganda from governments in

response to COVID-19, including the “lie” of dangerous variants, the

totalitarian potential for “vaccine passports,” and the strong possibility

we are dealing with a “conspiracy” which could lead to something far beyond

the carnage experienced in the wars and massacres of the 20th century.

His main points included:

There is “no possibility” current variants of COVID-19 will escape immunity.

It is “just a lie.”

Yet, governments around the world are repeating this lie, indicating that we

are witnessing not just “convergent opportunism,” but a “conspiracy.”

Meanwhile media outlets and Big Tech platforms are committed to the same

propaganda and the censorship of the truth.

Pharmaceutical companies have already begun to develop unneeded “top-up”

(“booster”) vaccines for the “variants.” The companies are planning to

manufacture billions of vials, in addition to the current experimental

COVID-19 “vaccine” campaign.

Regulatory agencies like the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the

European Medicines Agency, have announced that since these “top-up” vaccines

will be so similar to the prior injections which were approved for emergency

use authorization, drug companies will not be required to “perform any

clinical safety studies.”

Thus, this virtually means that design and implementation of repeated and

coerced mRNA vaccines “go from the computer screen of a pharmaceutical

company into the arms of hundreds of millions of people, [injecting] some

superfluous genetic sequence for which there is absolutely no need or

justification.”

Why are they doing this? Since no benign reason is apparent, the use of

vaccine passports along with a “banking reset” could issue in a

totalitarianism unlike the world has ever seen. Recalling the evil of

Stalin, Mao, and Hitler, “mass depopulation” remains a logical outcome.

The fact that this at least could be true means everyone must “fight like

crazy to make sure that system never forms.”

Dr. Yeadon began identifying himself as merely a “boring guy” who went “to

work for a big drug company … listening to the main national broadcast and

reading the broad sheet newspapers.”

Continuing, he said: “But in the last year I have realized that my

government and its advisers are lying in the faces of the British people

about everything to do with this coronavirus. Absolutely everything. It’s a

fallacy this idea of asymptomatic transmission and that you don’t have

symptoms, but you are a source of a virus. That lockdowns work, that masks

have a protective value obviously for you or someone else, and that variants

are scary things and we even need to close international borders in case

some of these nasty foreign variants get in.

“Or, by the way, on top of the current list of gene-based vaccines that we

have miraculously made, there will be some ‘top-up’ vaccines to cope with

the immune escape variants.

“Everything I have told you, every single one of those things is

demonstrably false. But our entire national policy is based on these all

being broadly right, but they are all wrong.”

‘Conspiracy’ and not just ‘convergent opportunism’

“But what I would like to do is talk about immune escape because I think

that’s probably going to be the end game for this whole event, which I think

is probably a conspiracy. Last year I thought it was what I called

‘convergent opportunism,’ that is a bunch of different stakeholder groups

have managed to pounce on a world in chaos to push us in a particular

direction. So it looked like it was kind of linked, but I was prepared to

say it was just convergence.”

“I [now] think that’s naïve. There is no question in my mind that very

significant powerbrokers around the world have either planned to take

advantage of the next pandemic or created the pandemic. One of those two

things is true because the reason it must be true is that dozens and dozens

of governments are all saying the same lies and doing the same inefficacious

things that demonstrably cost lives.

“And they are talking the same sort of future script which is, ‘We don’t

want you to move around because of these pesky varmints, these “variants”’—

which I call ‘samiants’ by the way, because they are pretty much the same —

but they’re all saying this and they are all saying ‘don’t worry, there will

be “top-up” vaccines that will cope with the potential escapees.’ They’re

all saying this when it is obviously nonsense.”

Possible end game: vaccine ‘passports’ tied to spending allowances, thorough

control

“I think the end game is going to be, ‘everyone receives a vaccine’…

Everyone on the planet is going to find themselves persuaded, cajoled, not

quite mandated, hemmed-in to take a jab.

“When they do that every single individual on the planet will have a name,

or unique digital ID and a health status flag which will be ‘vaccinated,’ or

not … and whoever possesses that, sort of single database, operable

centrally, applicable everywhere to control, to provide as it were, a

privilege, you can either cross this particular threshold or conduct this

particular transaction or not depending on [what] the controllers of that

one human population database decide. And I think that’s what this is all

about because once you’ve got that, we become playthings and the world can

be as the controllers of that database want it.

“For example, you might find that after a banking reset that you can only

spend through using an app that actually feeds off this [database], your ID,

your name, [and] your health status flag.”

“And, yes, certainly crossing an international border is the most obvious

use for these vaccine passports, as they are called, but I’ve heard talk of

them already that they could be necessary for you to get into public spaces,

enclosed public spaces. I expect that if they wanted to, you would not be

able to leave your house in the future without the appropriate privilege on

your app.

“But even if that’s not [the] true [intent of the vaccine campaign], it

doesn’t matter, the fact that it could be true means everyone [reading] this

should fight like crazy to make sure that [vaccine passport] system never

forms.”

“[With such a system], here is an example of what they could make you do,

and I think this is what they’re going to make [people] do.

“You could invent a story that is about a virus and its variations, its

mutations over time. You could invent the story and make sure you embed it

through the captive media, make sure that no one can counter it by censoring

alternative sources, then people are now familiar with this idea that this

virus mutates, which it does, and that it produces variants, which is true

[as well], which could escape your immune system, and that’s a lie.

“But, nevertheless, we’re going to tell you it’s true, and then when we tell

you that it’s true and we say ‘but we’ve got the cure, here’s a top-up

vaccine,’ you’ll get a message, based on this one global, this one ID

system: ‘Bing!’ it will come up and say ‘Dr. Yeadon, time for your top-up

vaccine. And, by the way,’ it will say ‘your existing immune privileges

remain valid for four weeks. But if you don’t get your top-up vaccine in

that time, you will unfortunately detrimentally be an “out person,” and you

don’t want that, do you?’ So, that’s how it’ll work, and people will just

walk up and they’ll get their top-up vaccine.”

Gov’t lies, Big Pharma moves forward, medicine regulators get out of the

way, and possible ‘mass-depopulation’

“But I will take you through this, Patrick, because I am qualified to

comment. I don’t know what Vanden Bossche is about. There was no possibility

at all, based on all of the variants that are in the public domain, 4000 or

so of them, none of them are going to escape immunity [i.e. become more

dangerous].

“Nevertheless, politicians and health advisers (to loads of governments) are

saying that they are. They’re lying. Well, why would you do that?

“Here’s the other thing, in parallel, pharmaceutical companies have said,

several of them, it will be quite easy for us to adjust our gene-based

vaccines, and we can hasten them through development, and we can help you.

“And here’s the real scary part, global medicines regulators like [the U.S.

Food and Drug Administration] FDA, the Japanese medicines agency, the

European Medicines Agency, have gotten together and announced … since top-up

vaccines will be considered so similar to the ones that we have already

approved for emergency use authorization, we are not going to require the

drug companies to perform any clinical safety studies.

“So, you’ve got on the one hand, governments and their advisers that are

lying to you that variants are different enough from the current virus that,

even if you’re immune from natural exposure or vaccination, you’re a risk

and you need to come and get this top-up vaccine. So, I think neither of

those are true. So why is the drug company making the top-up vaccines? And

[with] the regulators having got out of the way — and if Yeadon is right,

and I’m sure I am or I wouldn’t be telling you this — you go from the

computer screen of a pharmaceutical company into the arms of hundreds of

millions of people, some superfluous genetic sequence for which there is

absolutely no need or justification.

“And if you wanted to introduce a characteristic which could be harmful and

could even be lethal, and you can even tune it to say ‘let’s put it in some

gene that will cause liver injury over a nine-month period,’ or, cause your

kidneys to fail but not until you encounter this kind of organism [that

would be quite possible]. Biotechnology provides you with limitless ways,

frankly, to injure or kill billions of people.

“And since I can’t think of a benign explanation for any of the steps:

variants, top-up vaccines, no regulatory studies… it’s not only that I

cannot think of a benign explanation, the steps described, and the scenario

described, and the necessary sort of resolution to this false problem is

going to allow what I just described: unknown, and unnecessary gene

sequences injected into the arms of potentially billions of people for no

reason.

“I’m very worried … that pathway will be used for mass depopulation, because

I can’t think of any benign explanation.”

‘Absurdly impossible’ variants will escape immunity, ‘just a lie’

“If I can show you that one major thing that governments around the world

are telling the people is a lie, you should take my 32 years of experienced

opinion that says, most of it, if not all of it, is a lie.”

“The most different variant is only 0.3% different from the original

sequence as emailed out of Wuhan in … January 2020. 0.3% [is] the one

[variant] that is the most different on the planet so far. And now another

way of saying it is, ‘all of the variants are not less than 99.7% identical

to each other.’

“Now, you might be thinking, ‘hmm, .3%, is that enough [to escape immunity

and become more dangerous]?’ The answer is no. Get away, ya know, get out of

here …

“The human immune system is a thing of wonder. What it does is when it faces

a new pathogen like this, you’ve got professional cells, they’re called

professional antigen-presenting cells —they’re kind of rough tough things

that tend not to succumb to viruses. And their job is to grab foreign things

in the near environment and tear them limb from limb [inside the cell]. They

really cut them up into hundreds of pieces. And then they present these

pieces on the surfaces of their cell to other bits of your immune system,

and amazingly, because of the variability that God and nature gave you, huge

variability to recognize foreign things, and your body ends up using 15 to

20 different specific motifs that it spots about this virus. They’re called

epitopes, basically they’re just like little photographs of the details

about this virus. That’s what they do. And that is what is called your

repertoire, your immune repertoire is like 20 different accurate

photographs, close-ups, of different bits of this virus.

“Now, if a tiny piece of the virus changes, like the .3% I’ve just

described, if you are reinfected by that variant, your professional cells

tear into that virus and cut it into pieces, present them again, and lo and

behold, most of the pieces that you have already seen and recognized, are

still there in the variants.

“There is absolutely no chance that all of them will fail to be recognized

and that is what is required for immune escape, to escape your immunity. It

must present to you as a new pathogen. It must be sufficiently different

that, when it is cut up by your professional checker cells, it won’t find

mostly the same thing it has seen before. And that is just absurdly

impossible when you have only varied .3%, so it is 99.7% (similar).

“You can go and check that by looking at papers by a person called Alison

Tarke. There is also Shane Crotty, and all of the other co-authors.

“And before them, coming from my theoretical understanding of multi-locus

immunity, which is what I just badly tried to describe, to what actually

happens … If your [immune system] is presented with something that contains

even half of those similar pieces, there is no way your body will say, ‘that’s

a new pathogen.’

“And, so, the idea that 0.3% could even have a chance of getting around

immunity is just a lie. It’s not [even] like an opinion difference.

“I don’t think 3% would be enough. That’s 10 times more variation than has

occurred in 16 months [with this virus]. I don’t even think 30% difference

would be enough. So, I’m saying that 100 times more variation than has

actually happened, would still leave me putting a big bet on the human

immune system not being fooled that these are new pathogens.

“I’ve chatted this over with several professors of immunology and they

agreed with me, it’s like, ‘why are you asking me this?’

“So, I think that what I’ve just said is that governments and their advisors

in multiple countries are lying about variants. That’s a massive thing! You

should check it out. Your readers should check it out. If it’s true, don’t

you think it’s terrifying?! It was when I realized it.

“So, they’re lying about variants, and then, of course, since [the variants]

are not really different, you do not need a ‘top-up’ vaccine. Now you should

be getting the hairs on the back of your neck up, because they are making

them right now!”

“They are making billions of vials of it. And they will be available by the

end of the year.

“And I think they’ll require people to first, be on the vaccine passport

one-world database, and then it will roll up into the top-ups, and if it

takes a bit longer it will take a bit longer.

“But this is not going away. It won’t go away until enough people, if they

ever do, say ‘you’re a bunch of frauds and we are taking our freedoms back,

so you can just stop doing this.’

“Because one person shouting into the wilderness and all of the other

academics looking the other way, will have us just going down this pipe

maybe a week later than if I hadn’t said anything, but we’re still going

down to hell.

“So, that’s why I’m frightened.

“The variants aren’t different. I call them ‘samiants’… they’re pretty much

the same. They’re not different. Therefore, you don’t need a top-up vaccine,

so don’t go near any of them.”

‘Why is my government lying to me?’ Because ‘they are going to kill you.’

“[And if you recognize that our governments are involved in a major

verifiable lie], don’t just turn your computer off and go to supper. Stop.

Look out the window, and think, ‘why is my government lying to me about

something so fundamental?’ Because, I think the answer is, they are going to

kill you using this method. They’re going to kill you and your family.

“The eugenicists have got hold of the levers of power and this is a really

artful way of getting you to line-up and receive some unspecified thing that

will damage you. I have no idea what it will actually be, but it won’t be a

vaccine because you don’t need one. And it won’t kill you on the end of the

needle because you would spot that.

“It could be something that will produce normal pathology, it will be at

various times between vaccination and the event, it will be plausibly

deniable because there will be something else going on in the world at that

time, in the context of which your demise, or that of your children will

look normal.

“That’s what I would do if I wanted to get rid of 90 or 95% of the world’s

population. And I think that’s what they’re doing.”

“Now I don’t know [for certain] that they’re going to use that [system] to

kill you, but I can’t think of a benign reason, and with that power they

certainly could harm you, or control you, so you should object [and

strenuously oppose it].”

People can’t deal with this level of evil, but Soviets, Hitler, Mao show its

possibility

“It’s become absolutely clear to me, even when I talk to intelligent people,

friends, acquaintances … and they can tell I’m telling them something

important, but they get to the point [where I say] ‘your government is lying

to you in a way that could lead to your death and that of your children,’

and they can’t begin to engage with it. And I think maybe 10% of them

understand what I said, and 90% of those blank their understanding of it

because it is too difficult. And my concern is, we are going to lose this,

because people will not deal with the possibility that anyone is so evil…

“But I remind you of what happened in Russia in the 20th Century, what

happened in 1933 to 1945, what happened in, you know, Southeast Asia in some

of the most awful times in the post-war era. And, what happened in China

with Mao and so on.

“We’ve only got to look back two or three generations. All around us there

are people who are as bad as the people doing this. They’re all around us.

So, I say to folks, the only thing that really marks this one out, is its

scale.

“But actually, this is probably less bloody, it’s less personal, isn’t it?

The people who are steering this … it’s going to be much easier for them.

They don’t have to shoot anyone in the face. They don’t have to beat someone

to death with a baseball bat, or freeze them, starve them, make them work

until they die. All of those things did happen two or three generations back

and our grandparents or great grandparents were either victims of this, or

they were actually members of it, or at least they witnessed it from

overseas. That’s how close we are.

“And all I’m saying is, some shifts like that are happening again, but now

they are using molecular biology.

“And the people going along with it, I think they would probably say, ‘I was

only following orders,’ which we have heard before.

“But I know, because I have talked to lots of people, and some of them have

said ‘I don’t want to believe that you are right, so I’m going to just put

it away because if it is true, I can’t handle it.’ And I think … all you

need to do is find a good reason to tell people, ‘Don’t take the vaccine

unless you’re a medical risk of dying from the virus!’ That seems to me a

pretty good line!”

Towards a solution – ‘We need God’

“I’m a scientist, and I can tell you, talking to non-scientists, using

science as a tool, will not work. It will fail.

“So, we need philosophers, people who understand logic, religion, something

like that, [they have] got to wrestle with this, and start talking in a

language people will understand. Because if we leave it with scientists,

people like me, even though I’m well-intentioned, I’m a gabbling alien as

far as most people in the street are concerned. They won’t believe the

government will lie to them, they don’t believe the government would ever do

anything that will harm them, but they are [doing such things].”

Finally, in an email correspondence, Dr. Yeadon concluded, “I have latest

taken to signing off with ‘May God save us’, because I think we need God now

more than at any time since WW2.”

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Apr 9, 2021, 9:31:33 PM

Even scientists, including former Pfizer VPs, can fall prey to

mental illness and conspiracy theories.

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Apr 10, 2021, 1:53:28 AM

"Andrew W" <spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in

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> https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-gover

> nment-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death

"lifesitenews".

'Nuff said..........

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Apr 10, 2021, 6:47:51 AM

"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message

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>"Andrew W" <spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in

>news:s4pirt$lma$1...@dont-email.me:

>> https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-gover

>> nment-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death

> "lifesitenews".

> 'Nuff said..........

If trolls put down a site then it must be good.

Thanks for your endorsement.

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Apr 10, 2021, 12:38:02 PM

Bullshit.

The current vaccine WILL offer good protection against

the current strain - and decent protection against the

current variants. You won't die from C19 if you get the

shot.

However, yes, like the flu, NEW vaccines to cover the

inevitible future variants WILL be required. It is going

to be like flu shots - one a year to cover all the new

bases.

The new mRNA techniques like Pfizer and Moderna use

can be MUCH quicker to react to the latest variants. The

problem with flu vaccines not covering this years dominant

strain are OVER. Next years shots are surely already in

Moderna's and Pfizer's test tubes. If Joe and friends in ANY

way get in the way of them - IMPEACH and PROSECUTE

like crazy. We know they'd like a perpetual epidemic, a

perpetual state of emergency, that justifies all sorts of extra

authority - just as Machiavelli recommended.

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Andrew W

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Apr 10, 2021, 1:49:50 PM

"MHD" wrote in message news:6ca27gtv42hoctbgn...@4ax.com...

>Bullshit.

>The current vaccine WILL offer good protection against

>the current strain - and decent protection against the

>current variants.

How do you know? You don't. You're just repeating whatever the establishment

media and doctors are saying.

So far there's been no proof that the vaccine can stop anything.

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Malte Runz

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Apr 10, 2021, 6:31:15 PM

Less than two hours ago I wrote this in a reply to one of your posts:

'If a video is banned, they must have been telling the truth, and the

commie-nazis are hiding it from you.'

Again you sound exactly like what I thought was an exaggerated parody

of your line of reasoning.

And, by the way, do look up the definition of 'troll', okay.

Sorry, what was I thinking. Here it is:

From Wiki:

"In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts flame wars or

intentionally upsets people on the Internet. This is typically done by

posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic

messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat

room, or blog), ..."

Like cross-posting quasi-religious new-agey material and obvious

conspiracy theories to a newsgroup called alt.atheism.

"... with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional

responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion.[3]"

That's you, Andrew W, to a T.

Malte Runz

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Apr 10, 2021, 7:21:48 PM

"Malte Runz" wrote in message

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Believe what you want but I'm not here to upset people.

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Apr 11, 2021, 1:01:26 AM

On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 22:55:22 +1000, "Andrew W"

<spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-gover

nment-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death

> Dr. Michael Yeadon, Pfizer's former Vice President and Chief

Scientist for

> Allergy & Respiratory who spent 32 years in

> the industry leading new

> medicines research and retired from the

> pharmaceutical giant with “the most

> senior research position” in his field, spoke

> with LifeSiteNews.

I read what he's telling us. And his credibility

is undeniable. We'd all be well advised to

do a risk vs benefit assessment to the best

of our limited abilities. Which I've of course

done and decided to receive the vaccine.

And pretty much everything I've learned

since confirms it was the appropriate

decision.

That said, there are still issues deserving of

at least a raised eyebrow. But the opinions of

standard anti-vaxxer nutcases aren't worth even a moment's

consideration. And I don't know of any reliable sources sounding

alarms, other than the fellow cited above, so

I'm inclined to dismiss what he says too.

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Apr 11, 2021, 7:35:58 AM

Is there any evidence that they wrote with a *real* Dr. Yeador and not

an impostor? Are there any other independent sources of this article?

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MHD

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Apr 11, 2021, 11:42:56 AM

What ? Goverment - LYING ??? Who could imagine

such a thing !!!

Hey, the shots DO work. They will at least reduce the

intensity of any future infection. Not perfect, but what's

new hmm ?

I've already had Dose #1 ... very soon #2. It's the difference

between having a "flu" and spending three months with

a tube down my throat - or a sealed aluminum coffin.

But if you want something WORSE than lies - consider

that Moderna had its vaccine way back LAST April -

long before the big waves, long before any mutations.

Our sane scientific humanitarian FDA BLOCKED

DISTRIBUTION for almost nine months - indeed

until just after Trump was (supposedly) diselected

(interesting timing eh ?).

This is BEYOND accident, it's GENOCIDAL behavior

with likely political motivations. Is there enough room

at Gitmo for the entire FDA management staff ? Those

little tin gods killed HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.

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MHD

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Apr 11, 2021, 11:59:27 AM

Got your subscriptions to SCIENCE, NATURE, NEJM ? I do.

I pay for 'em, I read 'em. If you know where to surf you can

get the raw academic output of countries around the world -

ones that DON'T like each other, will NOT be part of some

Vaste Konspiracy theme. Don't try to out-science me you

ignorant fuck. The Truth IS out there, but you won't find it

from any NAZI or Commie extremist sources. All THEY

want is exploitable chaos.

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Andrew

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Apr 11, 2021, 7:40:19 PM

"MHD" wrote in message news:h5s47gt4j346apsps...@4ax.com...

>"Andrew W" wrote:

>>"MHD" wrote:

>>>Bullshit.

>>>

>>>The current vaccine WILL offer good protection against

>>>the current strain - and decent protection against the

>>>current variants.

>>How do you know? You don't. You're just repeating whatever

>>the establishment media and doctors are saying.

>>So far there's been no proof that the vaccine can stop anything.

> Got your subscriptions to SCIENCE, NATURE, NEJM ? I do.

> I pay for 'em, I read 'em. If you know where to surf you can

> get the raw academic output of countries around the world -

> ones that DON'T like each other, will NOT be part of some

> Vaste Konspiracy theme. Don't try to out-science me you

> ignorant fuck. The Truth IS out there, but you won't find it

> from any NAZI or Commie extremist sources. All THEY

> want is exploitable chaos.

After you calm down, would you like to please answer his

question? If you cannot, then we have prima facie evidence

that you are fighting ---> against the truth. <----

Then when you finish that, you may then want to apologize

to the nice man for losing control of your good nature and

using profanity.

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Ted

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Apr 12, 2021, 1:27:07 AM

If that's true, yes.

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Apr 12, 2021, 8:19:33 AM

"MHD" wrote in message news:h5s47gt4j346apsps...@4ax.com...

>On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:44:24 +1000, "Andrew W"

><spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

>>"MHD" wrote in message news:6ca27gtv42hoctbgn...@4ax.com...

>>>Bullshit.

>>>

>>>The current vaccine WILL offer good protection against

>>>the current strain - and decent protection against the

>>>current variants.

>>>

>>How do you know? You don't. You're just repeating whatever

>>the establishment media and doctors are saying.

>>So far there's been no proof that the vaccine can stop anything.

> Got your subscriptions to SCIENCE, NATURE, NEJM ? I do.

> I pay for 'em, I read 'em. If you know where to surf you can

> get the raw academic output of countries around the world -

> ones that DON'T like each other, will NOT be part of some

> Vaste Konspiracy theme. Don't try to out-science me you

> ignorant ____. >

Raw data does not equal raw truth or fact. It is still establishment data.

It is all affected by rules and interpretations and based on establishment

infrastructure.

The Truth IS out there, but you won't find it

> from any NAZI or Commie extremist sources. All THEY

> want is exploitable chaos.

Do you have any clue what you're talking about there?

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MHD

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Apr 12, 2021, 11:08:42 AM

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 10:19:29 +1000, "Andrew W"

<spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

>"MHD" wrote in message news:h5s47gt4j346apsps...@4ax.com...

>>On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:44:24 +1000, "Andrew W"

>><spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

>>>"MHD" wrote in message news:6ca27gtv42hoctbgn...@4ax.com...

>>>

>>>>Bullshit.

>>>>

>>>>The current vaccine WILL offer good protection against

>>>>the current strain - and decent protection against the

>>>>current variants.

>>>>

>>>

>>>How do you know? You don't. You're just repeating whatever

>>>the establishment media and doctors are saying.

>>>So far there's been no proof that the vaccine can stop anything.

>> Got your subscriptions to SCIENCE, NATURE, NEJM ? I do.

>> I pay for 'em, I read 'em. If you know where to surf you can

>> get the raw academic output of countries around the world -

>> ones that DON'T like each other, will NOT be part of some

>> Vaste Konspiracy theme. Don't try to out-science me you

>> ignorant ____. >

>Raw data does not equal raw truth or fact. It is still establishment data.

>It is all affected by rules and interpretations and based on establishment

>infrastructure.

"Fuck" is spelled F-U-C-K ... not "____"

Raw data IS the Truth. You just need a little background

in order to understand what it's saying.

Warning, there may be words with multiple syllables mixed

in there .....

>The Truth IS out there, but you won't find it

>> from any NAZI or Commie extremist sources. All THEY

>> want is exploitable chaos.

>Do you have any clue what you're talking about there?

Very much so.

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